He No-Showed… Then Called to Reapply 15 Minutes After Being Fired [The Bad Hire Ep. 21]

00:00:00 The early HR visit is always a bad sign. She admitted that she forgot to disclose that she suffered from vertigo. That's crazy. He had essentially terminated himself through attendance. I genuinely had to mute the phone call because I was laughing out loud at the situation. No way. This is The Bad Hire, the show with the best stories about the worst employees. We fired him, of course. People are crazy. It's like an HR nightmare. Right. One bad hire stole all of it. Crazy stuff. She got what she deserved. Oh. I'm your host, Ken Monroe, and every week we dive into real-life stories from the wild world

00:00:41 of work and what can happen when the wrong person gets the job. These stories aren't just crazy. They're cautionary tales about lessons learned the hard way. Let's get started. Hey, everyone. Welcome to The Bad Hire, the show with the best stories. We have stories about the worst hires and maybe employees. So we're – maybe they may get to employees. So we're back. Sometimes the first day is just – We've got some cool stories today, and I hear that this entire show is all submission stories. It is, yes. So that's fun, which means all that traction we're getting. But we're back again with Emma and Morgan.

00:01:21 Welcome. Hey, guys. Hi. You guys – you had some good stories last time? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Some of them were sad, though. I was like, dang, that's kind of sad. The weird one with the ghost story was kind of – that was – The ghost one and then the girl burning the house down. That was – Arson one was my favorite. Arson one. The what? Yeah. The arson – Arson one was my favorite. I think that was my favorite last episode as well. But – As a responsible one in the room, the ones submitted by the professional had great insight on hiring. That was a really good story, too. I probably would have guessed that that one would have been good, too. But, hey, listen, don't forget we're running that $10,000 contest. Send us your best bad hire story at thebadhire.com.

00:02:05 The funniest, craziest, most outrageous story. Here's the deal, right? We know everyone's got a story. You got a story about a bad interview, a bad hire, someone flaming out early, late, who knows when. But we know that you have a story, right? And we love to hear your stories. We all love to listen to your stories. So submit it to us. You can reach out to us and ask to be on a segment. We'll set up and interview you for the show. Play a clip of your interview right here on the show. You begin to see more and more of that. Or you can submit it in writing. You can stay anonymous or you can reveal yourself, whatever you want to do. We just want to be easy to work with to get your story on the show.

00:02:48 And so after really months of just consistently trying to promote the show, being here, doing it, finding the stories ourselves. Yeah. You know, we finally got a pipeline of 60, some guests you told us in the last show, you know, stacked up. That continues to grow. And we've got submissions coming in all the time now. Yeah. And so that's really cool. So an entire, I think this is the first time as show, show 20. It took 20 episodes for us to get a, um, a show completely done by content from other people, content from people out there. Yeah. So that's cool. That's awesome. I think that's great. And you guys love it because there's no more scouring the internet.

00:03:31 Exactly. Reddit, copy and paste onto the doctor. I should have like put my, I should have put Reddit on my computer so then like everybody could see how many hours I spent on Reddit a day. Yeah. Right. We did a lot of time. Trying to, trying to find a story. And then you got, it's just, uh, you know, uh, it's a, it's a little bit of a testament to just, um, not quitting and sticking to it. Right. It's just, you know, figuring out a way to make it happen. You shoot 20 of these, you got a lot of hours into 20 episodes trying to build. Yeah. And I mean, looking at Reddit for crazy stories is always entertaining. So it wasn't like, it wasn't fun for us. Yeah. All right. So dang it. I got to go on Reddit and read these crazy people's stories again.

00:04:15 So let me, um, let me, let me get started. Um, the story, uh, you know, submitted. So we hired an accounting person who came highly recommended, uh, through a recruiter and references. After two weeks of full daily training, she stepped into HR and said she needed to talk. Okay. The, the early HR visit is, is always a bad sign. She admitted that she forgot to disclose that she suffered from vertigo. Okay. And may need to stay at home when she would have an onset. Okay. Normally this is something I would be concerned about and understand, but a red flag went up right away because of the way she introduced the conversation.

00:04:57 After she left, I told the head of HR, I guarantee you she will start taking off more and more time. I think that was just her setting the stage, uh, for needing to take some sick days. Sure enough, each week after that, she was off a day or two here, there. She hadn't even accrued enough PTO to cover the time off over the next month or so her time off got longer and longer. Her work was suffering and the other members of the team felt she wasn't there enough to continue giving the training for the department that was needed. The head of HR called her at her home to check on her and said, Hey, since she had been out too

00:05:39 much more than three days in a row, we would need her to bring in a doctor's note. She never showed up again and didn't call when she was sick. When we finally did hear from her, she said she was in the hospital. As it turns out that same evening, I was headed to a trivia game, to a trivia game night. And at a stoplight, I happened to glance in my rear view mirror. I took a double take and realized she was driving the SUV directly behind me. Oh no. She was laughing and carrying on with her preteen son who was in the passenger seat. As we drove away, I knew it was her because the front of the vehicle is personalized nameplate with her unique first name.

00:06:21 When I arrived in trivia, my friend said, You look ticked off and what's going on? I told her about the situation and the stoplight incident. And when I mentioned the coworker's unique first name, she said, What? Oh no. I have a feeling where this is going. What? You kidding me? Wait a minute. I had my nails done today at my salon and the woman next to me had a tattoo on her chest with that same name. Girl. And the nail tech called her by that name. Busted. Needless to say, after letting my boss in on this, the head of HR contacted her the next day to say, If you don't get your doctor's note by the end of today, we will need to start termination paperwork. Later the following day, we still had not heard from her, but we saw on our office cameras

00:07:06 that she slipped in after hours and left her laptop and badge in her top desk drawer. We overnighted the termination paperwork. That's a quiet resignation. Yeah. That's my only story for today. That's crazy. Oh my gosh. She loves her name that much? To have a tattoo across her chest? That's so funny. I just read the next line. That's my only story today. Like it was a part of her story. Yeah. No. Yeah. Literally. She's like. Just keep going. Yeah. She's like, I got more. I was like, that's my only story today. Morgan, what have you got? Yeah. After doing this, after doing this for so long, it's crazy to see the excuses that people come up with. That's a good story. We're trying to get like days off. HR pros are warriors, man.

00:07:47 HR pros are warriors. Managers are warriors just from putting up with this stuff. She should have told them that though in the interview. I thought this was headed down. She had two jobs. Oh, I did too. Oh, another double dipping story. I mean. She was just living her best life getting paid from the one job. Right? Yeah. She's out getting her nails done. It's crazy. Like, what are the odds that she was sitting right next to her at the nail salon? That is. Yeah. She had that. She had her name tattooed on her chest. And one of the odds that she's right behind the other person in the car too. It was bad karma for her. It's crazy. Right? She just, no. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.

00:08:29 All right. Good story though. I love that. I'm sure. That was it. I think when a lot of people hear that story or stories like that, it just resonates with them because they all got that lady in their life. They all had that person. Yeah. Who showed up. You know, I had somebody working for me one time and she was just, you know, she needed all these flex time hours. You know, she's like, well, I got to leave at three to go get my son and then I got to do this. Yeah. And, and, and she's like, but it's no problem. I come in after I get back, I give him in, then I work for a couple of hours. Yeah. Okay. So she's rolling in late because she has to handle something with her son. And, and then, um, then she leaves every day at two 33 and she's like, Hey, I'm making

00:09:12 the time up. And you know, our systems keep up with all that. And eventually, you know, you look and you're, you know, cause something's not right. Work's not getting done. You just, you know, you're looking for the results of the, of the role. It's not happening. So you have to start looking closer, which is, I hate doing that. Yeah. And, and then she, she leaves every day at two 30. She never signs back on, never does anything on the computer just every day. And then, but what was crazy is the number of times she was saying, Oh my gosh, I worked so late last night. It was just terrible. I just worked so late. I just hardly got to sleep because I worked so late. You know, so she began to build these stories of how hard she's working after hours. Not knowing we could see that she wasn't logging in at all.

00:09:55 Yeah. And, you know, or, you know, do the quick email log in where you like log in at nine o'clock and respond to two emails. For a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it was, but that's, uh, and it's, I guess that's part of, part of allowing hybrid or homework now today is it's very, very difficult situation in terms of keep it up with folks. One day we'll have to do a whole, a whole show on like, uh, work from home. Yeah. You know, work from home, complete blowups. That would be a cool show. Yeah. So we need a separate segment on that. Yeah. This is the work from home segment. Yeah. Of our show. Yeah. Where everyone, everyone who worked from home fights like crazy that it's the greatest thing.

00:10:38 They're the most productive. Yeah. Ever. Yeah. And the reality is people who just got horror story after horror story of just companies just getting abused by people. Yeah. Um, who work from home. So not saying it doesn't happen and it can't be good for some people, but companies. Absolutely. Um, my experience with it hasn't been super awesome. Yeah. So before we dive back into the chaos on the bad hire, this episode is brought to you by B-Checks. Hiring shouldn't feel like rolling the dice. Background checks should come with great tech, seamless integration, and customer service that delivers. That's B-Checks. Lightning fast results, unmatched accuracy, built in fraud prevention.

00:11:18 We help you hire the right people. Now B-Checks plugs into over 100 HRIS and ATS systems. So your background checks run smooth, fast, and backed by top level service. Protect your team. Protect your reputation. Protect your sanity. Go to B-Checks.io. That's B-C-H-E-X dot I-O. All right, here we go. This story, uh, this story was submitted. Yes. So this story was submitted by Patrick Johnson and he's the director of client support at E-Show. So thank you, Patrick, for submitting your story. Um, he said in May of 2024, I was tasked with implementing a new tier one support department

00:11:59 for our software based company. This was a seat of our pants type decision. Um, I've never heard that expression before. We knew we needed the support level, but no time was provided to properly develop the needs of the team and scope out their work. My VP of technology had an offshore agency in discussions already for coding type resources. The advisor provided resources to do simple work. So we took a shot at it. Something that was a Volunt, Volunt, Volunt, Volunt type decision. Never heard that either. Voluntled. Voluntled. Is that it? Voluntled. Yeah. Is that it? I've never heard that. I don't know. I don't know if it's an actual word, but I've definitely, but I've definitely used it before. Definitely looking that up after this.

00:12:40 The agency sets up a zoom to meet a few available candidates. Lo and behold, about 10 gentlemen pour into the call, all packed behind one screen with what I believe was an old supervisory type at the front conducting. Knowing how many people I was going to meet, I immediately had to shorten my questions down to two to three. They rotated through awkward carousels with their names. The language barrier came. We were already overcoming technology issues on there and microphone issues, which was delaying the meeting about 10 minutes. And by the time we began conversing, I was hearing word soup. They would have to translate for most of the candidates. I was able to little down to the large group about four with one question, essentially taking anyone out with could understand me period or two had absolutely no answer to my question,

00:13:25 which was tell me about yourself. Yes. Yeah. It should be a home run for anyone. Language barrier was absolutely rough for everyone. We walked away with two resources hired, but we were told immediately two additional supervisors would also be required to attend training and have platform access. The supervisors were mostly leeches on the trainings. I would bet money at least one of them slept for a portion from what I was told. The relationship with the agency lasted about six months, but I learned a lot about what not to do from that experience. Most importantly, never hold an interview where you can't give yourself the same baseline you would give any other candidate. The buckshot approach felt grimy, and in the end, it absolutely was.

00:14:06 Had we taken a more traditional route, potentially we would have identified candidates that were true fits, rather than making gut check decisions because the leadership needed resources moving. Since then, we've moved into strictly independent hiring and yielding tons more success outside of typical U.S. hires. That's an agency bad hire, kind of, more than a single one. That's a way interesting story. Also, think about all the people lining up to interview, how weird that would feel if you were in that situation where you're on a Zoom call with 10 of your other coworkers and like, I hope I get chosen out of my 10 coworkers for this. I think it was cultural differences there where they think that's okay. We're just kind of rolling through. And great here at the end, he's like, hey, I learned a lot in this process.

00:14:52 And I've had some experience like this of trying to hire workers that aren't in the United States. And it's challenging to get right. And you cannot treat them like just third world disposable employees that are cheap. Yeah. And so, you know, the whole idea of trying to do a group interview is starting in the wrong frame of mind that not everyone deserves their individual time to talk to you. Yeah. You're trying to hire fast. And, you know, there's this little bit of this currency that comes with that of like, yeah, yeah, this is not the same.

00:15:34 And I think he, in the end, he comes to the same conclusion. We need to apply the same processes, have the same kind of standards. Yeah. And if you do, you can find great talent anywhere in the world. Yeah. Yeah. I also think interviews alone are nerve wracking. And then if you have a language barrier, you're even more worried about what you're going to say. And then imagine like you're worried about your English with also like your coworkers around you, like who also can have a language barrier to. I don't know. I feel like that's super nerve wracking. He saw the supervisors as a net negative. Yeah. Which I was surprised by, which means he was using some type of agency wherever he was doing. They were bringing in people for him. Yeah. But then, and the way those companies typically work, you know, their partnership companies is they,

00:16:18 you get the employee, but a part of the employee cost includes supervision. Supervisors, yeah. And, you know, in this case, it was a net negative. And other cases I've seen it is a super big positive. Yeah. You know, and so you just, I think the two lessons here, treat everyone like an individual. Yeah. You know, at the same standards, hire with as much meaningful approach in that space, but also find the right partner. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Great story. Loved it. All right. My next story is also a submitted story and it's titled free money. Unfortunately, I was laid off in February, 2020, right around the time when COVID was hitting

00:17:01 and being spread. I was laid off on a Monday morning, February 17th. I have a very strong technical skillset. So I wasn't too worried about finding a new job. Little did I know I would find a new job the same day via a recruiter. I interviewed and was hired the same day by a company who had lost a long-term employee and needed to fill this position ASAP with the uncertainty of COVID. I started two weeks later. And after a couple of days on the job, the company sent everyone home due to COVID-19. I'd spent one day at the job, completing paperwork, enrolling in benefits, et cetera. And another day sitting with someone trying to learn my role before everyone was sent home. I was provided with a laptop and a ton of documentation to start looking at, but that's about it.

00:17:41 The role I was in was very technical, but required a great deal of hands-on and live training. I was not given any tasks for the first six months and only was required to attend a few meetings here and there when I couldn't add any value whatsoever. Around July, August of 2021, like between there, they started slowly bringing us back into the office, but only for a day or two a week. And the only guy who had the ability to train me was unable to come into the office due to some illnesses. Hold on. It's February, 2020. Yeah. It's July, 2021. So it's a year and a half later when they start bringing people back. It sounds, yeah, sounds like it. So the only person who could train her was this guy who was unable to come into the office due to illnesses with his children.

00:18:23 And they had to, they were like high risk. So literally two years on payroll, salary around 150K and nothing being asked of me. Many people would jump at such an opportunity, but it was driving me crazy. After 26 months, I decided that I'd had enough and left the company to pursue another interest. I'm a hard worker, but it didn't feel right sitting on the bench and not being able to contribute. Wow. Wow. I don't know. It's not really, it feels like a really good hire story. Yeah. I mean, that's a bad, that's like a bad hire story in reverse, right? 150K salary. We hired somebody. Because the person was talking about how they were so hardworking and like, they literally felt bad that they were being paid so much and not even doing anything.

00:19:04 Right. Right. The bad hire was the fact that you hired someone and then just set them there and didn't do anything with them. Yeah. You know, wow. And, and the person themselves turns out to be a great hire. Yeah. I mean, they're just like, I want a challenge. I want to work. Yeah. And frustrated that there's a lot of people that would have, there's a lot of people would have gone out and decided to apply for another job and keep that one. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's just like, they're not going to ask anything of me. I'm going to take their paycheck. I'm going to go get another job. Yeah. And work for them. For sure. Yeah. That happens all the time. Mm-hmm. There was, there was a company, um, I want to make sure I remember reading the story back and back, you know, post COVID, right after COVID. And it was, um, a company that, that verifies where people work.

00:19:48 Right. Oh, yeah. And they decided to verify their own employees where they worked and discovered that there was a, not an insignificant percentage of them who were currently employed somewhere else. Wow. While working for them. Wow. That's crazy. Yeah. I think it's, I don't know. Good story. Good story about a great person. It's crazy what some people think they can get away with. Yeah. Do what? It's crazy what some people think they can get away with. I know. It's nuts. Yeah. I don't know how people would juggle the two tasks without like, I mean, feeling like a chicken with his head cut off. I'd be like, oh my gosh, that's a lot to handle. Yeah. Or they just start failing at the other job. I think people justify it. Right. Yeah. They, they tell themselves they're doing a good job for, for both.

00:20:33 Yeah. And they're both getting value, but that's, that's, that's not true. The person who hired you expected to hire your, you know, the first person that hired you and you want to work for, they expected to get your full energy and thought and heart of, you know. Yeah. I mean, that's what you're trying to get. And not, you know. Yeah. And also with that, that particular story being like the very beginning of COVID where people will, they probably weren't used to having people work remotely. And so they, you know, some people just didn't know how to handle having that many people working at home, how to handle, cause you know. Oh, it was a great. Yeah. Yeah. When you were reading that story. Yeah. There was a couple of dates that, that stuck out.

00:21:14 It was like, I just, these are days like in my brain. Yeah. Yeah. February 17th, 2020. I mean, it was a day that like the world was like, boom. Yeah. And then two days later. Schools didn't go back. Yeah. February 17th. Yeah. You know. And it's crazy when you look at it now of how every, how people have evolved their processes. Yeah. I started a COVID task force. We were so locked down and secure here. We didn't have laptops. We didn't have anything. You know, the idea of someone, you know. And so we started a COVID task force in January, I think late January, maybe, maybe early, whatever. And immediately made some decisions to try to ready ourself for potential home deployment.

00:21:58 Yeah. And, and then February 19th rolls around and the, just the bottom fell out. Yeah. And I remember, you know, same type of going through that. It was kind of crazy listening to that story. It was a little reminiscing there. Yeah. What a lucky, how lucky were they to go get a job really, really quickly. Yeah. For sure. In the midst of everybody being laid off, this person was hired like in one day. Yeah. Yeah. Gotta believe they have like a really great resume. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. All right, Emma, you're up. Okay. I've got one story for today. It's really, really long. A lot of these submitted stories are, which we appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah. I appreciate the attention to detail.

00:22:38 Yeah. I like them when they. Yeah. Yeah. Do some detail. Yeah. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, story. It's awesome. Yes. So this was submitted for our contest, but they wanted to remain anonymous. So. Anonymous you are. Yep. This story is called Sudden Amnesia. Hmm. I worked for a manufacturing plant back around 2021, and we hired this gentleman as a forklift driver. He was a little odd, but so are many people in our area, so we decided to take a chance on him. I love the way the story is told. It is so funny. Yes. Sure. So is some other people in our area. New hire orientation comes around. Ours is about three days long. He shows up bright at and bushy-tailed and successfully made it through all three days with no issue.

00:23:21 Great. Now it's time to get him to the floor. Day one on the floor arrives. He is scheduled to be there at 6.55 a.m. No show. Okay, I'll give him a call and see what happened. We call the number he provided. No answer. We give him two hours. Still no show. I try to call again and a female answers the phone. I tell her that I'm looking for this gentleman and I ask if he's available. She responds. He's not there yet. He left two hours ago. My heart drops. I've seen horror stories, so I wonder. I worry that something had happened to him. She tells me that she's his girlfriend and that she will try to call him and then she'll call me back. So he left his phone at home then, I guess. I don't know. Well, wherever he is. You'll see. Okay. Two minutes later, my phone rings and it's the girlfriend again.

00:24:05 He's almost there. Here's his number if you want to call him. Great. Relieved to hear he's okay. I thank her and call the number she gave me and he picks up right away. I ask him if everything is okay and if he plans to get to work. He assures me that he's on the way and that he's about to pass the McDonald's that is one mile from the plant. Wonderful. I thank him and hang up and let his supervisor know that he is almost there and then go on with my day. Two hours later, I pass the supervisor in the hallway and ask if his new hire made it and how he was doing. He looked at me with a puzzled look and tells me that he never showed up. Surprised and a little annoyed that they didn't tell me sooner, I call the new hire back. He answers right away. Admittedly, I was annoyed at the time, so I was a little more sarcastic than I preferred to admit.

00:24:50 But I asked him, do you need any help finding the place? He tells me that he thought he knew how to get there, but asked if I can give him directions. Oh, my God. Mind you, he was just there for orientation the three days prior to this day. So, she even shares what she was thinking to herself. She goes, okay, take a deep breath. You're a professional. You get to see this professional HR person. She just wants to be so... Deep breath. You're a professional, I say to myself before responding to him. I ask him where he is and he tells me. I give him some general directions to get there and provide the address for him to use maps if needed. He assures me he will be there shortly and apologizes for the inconvenience.

00:25:34 I again tell the supervisor to be on the lookout and to please let me know if he doesn't arrive within the hour. Two more hours later, I reach out to the supervisor and ask how it's going. I assume he arrived since I never heard otherwise. Nope. Supervisor said he never showed up. It's about 1 p.m. at this point and his shift ends at 3.30. I call him again, definitely agitated this time. He answers right away. Don't tell me he answers. He answers right away and tells me that he is on his way and will be there in two minutes. He's got to be trolling her. I advise him... He's got to be trolling her. I advise him that he missed the majority of his shift and to just not even come in at all today. And to come in at his normal time on Monday at 6.55 a.m.

00:26:19 Craziness. We're just going to forget today. Yeah. Come back tomorrow. He agrees. We hang up. Do you think he showed up again? No. No. No call, no show again on Monday. At this point, we have a very strict attendance policy and he had essentially terminated himself through attendance. Oh my gosh. So I get the approvals. I write his letter and I give him a call. I ask him if he was aware that he was supposed to come into work today at 6.55 a.m. He said he didn't know. I advise him that he had pointed himself out and we were separating him at that day. He's never been there to even look at the schedule. He says he understands. I ask him if he has any questions. He says no. We hang up and I wash my hands of him.

00:27:01 Or so I thought. Oh my God. If only this was the true end. 15 minutes later, I get a call from this guy. Hey, I was just calling to see if you were hiring. No way. Are you kidding me? What? I genuinely had to mute the phone call because I was laughing out loud at the situation. No way. I decide to give him the benefit of the doubt. We are a large company and we have many locations. Maybe he meant to call another one. I unmute myself and ask if he meant to call our location or one of our others. He replied with, oh, yours is fine. It is closer for me. This dude. No words. I have no words that can describe my shock at this moment. I mean, was he hit on the head after orientation?

00:27:43 I'm sorry. I'm short term amnesia. I promptly tell him that I had separated with him earlier that day and advised him that he's not eligible for rehire and hung up the phone. He was so not into this job. I didn't even know who he was employed. Literally. I sat at my desk with my head in my hands and laughed hysterically for about 20 minutes. Two days later, I get a call from our warehouse supervisor at our offsite warehouse. He asked me if I knew a guy and stated his name. I kid you not. It was the same guy. He went to our offsite warehouse where there are no offices, by the way, and asked if we

00:28:25 were hiring. Again, I'm left speechless. Well, he found that place. Yeah, for real. How'd you find that place? I tell him that's the new hire that we just ended on Monday because of attendance. I asked him to go outside and tell him that he is not an employee anymore and is not to be on company property without prior approval. Thank goodness that was the last time that he graced us with his presence. He applied online for a few more roles, but shockingly, we never called him back. Surprise, surprise. Oh my gosh. That is hilarious. I love that story. I love the story and I love the way this person wrote it too. It's so funny. Yeah. Oh my gosh. That's my story for today. I bet there's just like so many of those.

00:29:09 I bet. Just so many great stories of just people who are just like no show. It's just like a complete disconnect from reality. I'm just delusional. What got it for me was him calling literally 15 minutes after they fired him and said, Hey, are you hiring? He was working hard to get a job. He immediately went to the internet. Did you need to call this location or another one? No, this is the one. He starts calling local companies. Are you hiring? That is crazy. Apparently they're a big company. He's just calling the big company. I guess. I don't know. Oh my gosh. What a great story. That's a really good one. I really like that one. I love that. Well, I hope we continue to get more like that. Yeah. Me too.

00:29:50 That was a great one. Really big contender for our contest right there. Sure. I really like it. I totally love that. Oh my gosh. Yeah. So, you know, we're wrapping up, but I just want to say, you know, we need to remind people, submit stories, submit stories, submit stories. Today's, we said before, it's the first time I spent all submitted stories. Loved it. Some of the best stories. For sure. Sure. Yeah. I think when people write the stories for this kind of presentation, you know, they can, I think they're kind of cool. And they're probably a little better than what we can find that wasn't necessarily meant for it to be told by someone like us. So if you, if you got a story and we know you got a story, tell us, send it to us.

00:30:31 You can go to thebadhire.com. You can submit it online. You can, I think you can reach out via email. Yeah. You can tell us you want to be on the show. You can do a video segment and have, you can tell your own story or talk with a producer. We've had some really cool interactions, some really cool, I think, you know, how is that going? Is it, Nathan's doing most of them? Yeah. It's been great. We've gotten great feedback. Everybody's loved being on the show so far. They're excited when their episode comes out. So I think it's been great and we've had a lot of interest. So we're excited to have you guys on the show. So we've got a long pipeline of people, but that doesn't mean don't get in because as we work through them, some people will not, we'll set, you know, we'll change their mind or whatever. And so, um, and then also the intent is to try to ramp it up the amount of interviews

00:31:16 that we can do so we can replace stories with video interviews as much as possible. But you can always not do that and submit a story like this one. Yeah. And there were a couple, I think one today was anonymous and another person said, yeah, I don't care. Share my information. Yeah. Yeah. But at the end of the year, we'll give away $10,000 to the best, to the best, uh, to the, to the best story of the year. And, um, so I'm looking forward to that. That's going to be fun. Yeah. And, um, I'm excited about, you know, kind of the, the traction and, um, we're getting on the show and, and views we're getting on, on, uh, social media clips. Kind of fun. Pretty cool. All right. So submit your story. Um, if you want to be a guest. Yep. All right. No, thanks for listening.

00:31:57 We appreciate you guys. Uh, and we'll talk soon. Bye. Bye guys. Bye. Bye.